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-Piers Morgan Attacks the Bible on Christmas Eve and Rick Warren Responds

by Dr. D ~ December 27th, 2012

Piers Morgan at CES 2011.

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Here’s the latest controversial comment by TV’s Piers Morgan. An attack on the Bible on Christmas Eve no less along with pastor Rick Warren’s response:

During a discussion on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight” on Monday — Christmas Eve — with Saddleback Church Pastor Rick Warren, Morgan argued that there needs to be an “amendment to the Bible” for same-sex marriage, because like the Constitution, the Bible is “inherently flawed.”

Both the Bible and the Constitution were well intentioned but they are basically, inherently flawed. Hence, the need to amend it,” Morgan told Warren during a conversation where Morgan emphasized the need for America to separate Church and State.

“My point to you about gay rights, for example, it’s time for an amendment to the Bible.”

“Uh, no,” replied Warren, in a conversation that remained civil between both parties. “Not a chance. What I believe is flawed is human opinion, because it constantly changes.”

Response: Wow, not exactly the type of dialogue one would expect on Christmas Eve. A great response by Pastor Rick however. This is not the first time that Pastor Rick has been challenged to justify Biblical views on homosexuality. Piers Morgan is being the jerk that he normally is but does reflect here the thinking of most in the MSM.

One might ask Piers who he thinks has the authority to change the Bible? After all, some denominations have voted to ignore Bible teaching and pick and choose what they will follow but no one today claims to have sufficient authority to actually change or amend the Bible itself (Except a few cults with their very own ‘translations’).

I can remember a few years ago when some of the ‘top’ professors of religion in America got together in the so-called ‘Jesus Seminar’ and voted on what sayings of Jesus in the Gospels were really authentic. By the time they got done cutting up the New Testament there really wasn’t much left and nothing that any one’s faith would ever be based upon. So much for an attempt to come up with a new ‘authentic’ Bible. I would not want to be any one of those folks when they go to their final ‘reward’ and have to explain their votes to the Son of God Himself.

Interestingly Piers Morgan has some challenges of his own going on right now. With all of the furor he has kicked up on the 2nd Amendment-gun rights issue there is now a  petition signed by 10’s of thousands sent to the White House to get him kicked out of the country. Laughably there is also a petition by the British not to take him back and force America to keep him. Obviously a rather popular fellow. Add his comments on the Bible to the mix and I am sure thousands more will sign up on both sides of the Atlantic?  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Piers!               *Top          

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4 Responses to -Piers Morgan Attacks the Bible on Christmas Eve and Rick Warren Responds

  1. mark

    We all pick and chose what to accept and reject in the bible. Atheists will agree with some or many of the concepts and teachings of the bible, as well as believers that aver or deny the validity of same. It is a disservice to the sustainability of biblical belief to leave it as an unquestioned source of morality, as modern thinking and empirically observable alternative truths emerge. Perhaps it’s time to view biblical writing as sometimes metaphorical and sometimes mis-conceived.

  2. Dr. D

    Thanks mark for your informed comments. Since much of Western morality is based upon the Bible it is still a beginning point for most.

    For those of us who believe that the Bible represents the communication of God to humankind than the Bible still stands as the defining word and foundation of our faith.

    Bible scholars and pastors who still take the Bible seriously use a number of well defined rules- called hermeneutics in questioning and interpreting the Bible text. There is a popular view that the scripture is open to a variety of diverse private interpretations -but words have meaning and the text originally meant something to the original receivers. Through the science of hermeneutics, Bible students hope to reclaim the original meaning of the text which is rooted in the original language, culture, literary genre, and historical context. Yes and some of that literary genre is metaphorical.

    Sometimes what folks come up with in understanding the English translation is far removed from what the original writers intended. Also, sometimes those who use the KJV written in 1611 even come up with a different meaning than the original English translators intended 400 years ago because some words in English have actually changed in meaning over the centuries.

    Language, literary genre, cultural and historical context are all taken into consideration in trying to understand what the text is trying to communicate and what may be relevant for us today in our own historical context. There is agreement among the majority of Bible scholars when it comes to the meaning of over 95% of the text. Less than 5% is in dispute and little of it really affects the Christian faith and understanding of God and his teachings.

    The real disagreement among Christian scholars and religious leaders is not about what the Bible actually says or teaches but what is still valid and relevant in our present context- what is timeless and continues to be part of God’s message for us today and what applied only in the ancient cultural context in which it was given. (e.g.:So when the Apostle Paul said that women need to shut up in church, most Christian scholars today see that applying only in the cultural context of the 1st century when woman were assigned to the back of the sanctuary and separated from the men. or -when Leviticus teaches that adulterers and homosexuals caught in the act are to be stoned- all Jewish and Christian Bible scholars today see that provision as part of the civil law of Israel but still adhere to the idea that adultery and homosexuality are immoral and contrary to God’s law. In Acts when the church was being established among Gentiles, the Apostles ruled that the sexual provisions and moral teachings were still valid but onerous orthodox Jewish Mosaic dietary laws no longer applied to the Gentile believers.)

    Therefore, when Piers Morgan says the Bible needs to be amended it is an ignorant statement at best since he really doesn’t care what it says and doesn’t really want to deal with the text. He is really saying that it needs to be ignored since he personally does not agree with the Bible teaching on adultery and homosexuality. Also he is obviously supporting an attitude that Christianity needs to break away from the foundation of the Bible and conform instead to present cultural trends. What goes unsaid is any mention of God in the discourse. According to Piers the Bible and Christianity need to be changed? What about God- does He also need to conform to Morgan’s views? Obviously Piers Morgan doesn’t care one way or another about what the creator of the universe might think about it all.

    Point is- I can respect someone like yourself who comes out and admits to being an atheist even if we disagree. At least you are honestly dealing with the question and how it affects ones understanding of morality.

  3. Brian

    I’m not worried. Jesus Himself said that His word won’t go away even up til the end of the world itself. Bible bashers and anti-Christs will be around until then too, but guess what, Jesus wins. Boo-ya!

  4. Dr. D

    Amen Brian

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