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-Jesus, the Presbyterian Church (USA), and Homosexuality Vs. Paul?

by Dr. D ~ May 16th, 2011

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The Presbyterian Church (PCUSA) recently passed an amendment to its Book of Order that will probably open the door to the ordination of practicing homosexuals in that denomination.

Some in the PCUSA have declared that since Jesus never spoke specifically on the subject it is possible to be in complete submission “to the Lordship of Jesus Christ in all aspects of life” while actively and openly living a homosexual lifestyle.

They make this claim  in the face of scriptural teaching to the contrary in the writings of Paul (Rom 1:26–27; 1 Cor 6:9; 1 Tim 1:10). In this line of thinking the ‘non-teaching’ of Jesus supposedly overrides the clear teaching of Paul?

What ever happened to Biblical authority? It use to be the corner stone of all Presbyterian teaching.

<<Read my the complete post on my Apologetica page along with a very fine article linked there>>

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4 Responses to -Jesus, the Presbyterian Church (USA), and Homosexuality Vs. Paul?

  1. Bob

    At the end of the Gospel of John, it speaks of “many things that Christ did and said, but are not included here.” Essentially, the Presbyterian Church’s claim that because Christ did not “speak specifically on the subject of homosexuality”(in other words, it’s not in the Bible), they can not render a decision on it is a total cop-out. They are just another main line protestatant faith that is falling further and further from the Truth of Christ’s teachings in the hopes of keeping people in the pews on Sunday. The Presbyterian Church is almost unrecognizeable as a Christian faith.

  2. Dr. D

    Bob,
    Sadly many churches and pastors in that denomination are still faithful to God’s word but now find themselves placed in a pressure cooker situation that they must respond to whether they want to or not.

  3. Aaron

    Is there anywhere else in the bible that addresses homosexuality besides the letters from Paul? Also, doesn’t this change also include heterosexual activity outside of marriage?

  4. Bob

    This ruling is further evidence of churches becoming more worldly and following the dictates of society and not the God of the universe. When a church starts deliberately misinterpreting the Bible, our authority, to keep up with this world’s immoral and decadent lifestyles they are in real danger of destruction and judgment. The church has to stand firm and not change with the times. I’m very disheartened about this new ruling that will further weaken and destroy the Presbyterian faith. In the book of Revelations it states that “If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God shall add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone subtracts any part of these prophesies, God shall take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City described. Leviticus 18:22 “Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; this is detestable.” Leviticus 18:24-25 “Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin and the land vomited out its inhabitants.” And, Romans 1:18-32 “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualties–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator–who is forever praised. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

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