Comments on: Who Was Cain Afraid Of? http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/ ANSWERS For The Faith Blog Fri, 18 May 2012 04:34:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: punk http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/comment-page-1/#comment-31006 punk Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:35:23 +0000 http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/#comment-31006 Could he of been afraid of the final cavemen? They looked human enough and scary enough. Who says they have to be relatives what if sending him out there meant the sons of God could have killed him. The sons of God or angels maybe were already in their early corrupt stages. Angels and sons of God are not the same. Angels fornicated with women. I think the bible says something about "Strange Flesh" regarding the angels. - The sons of God married human women and had nephilum. They started corrupting the human bloodline. Adam and Eve could not go back and forth to heaven. The sons of God and angels could even the not so nice ones). Maybe everyone living in that territory had security or divine protection where these spiritual bad guys who could manifest in the flesh couldn't get in. However, when he left all bets could have been off. Also the way Cain was marked would have been something only the divine could see. he wasn't disfigured. So it makes sense that manifesting spirit creatures such as fallen angels or sons of God could have been what he feared. I'm just a bible beginner...but a logical thinker...let me know if I missed anything. Could he of been afraid of the final cavemen? They looked human enough and scary enough.

Who says they have to be relatives what if sending him out there meant the sons of God could have killed him. The sons of God or angels maybe were already in their early corrupt stages. Angels and sons of God are not the same. Angels fornicated with women. I think the bible says something about “Strange Flesh” regarding the angels. – The sons of God married human women and had nephilum. They started corrupting the human bloodline. Adam and Eve could not go back and forth to heaven. The sons of God and angels could even the not so nice ones). Maybe everyone living in that territory had security or divine protection where these spiritual bad guys who could manifest in the flesh couldn’t get in. However, when he left all bets could have been off. Also the way Cain was marked would have been something only the divine could see. he wasn’t disfigured. So it makes sense that manifesting spirit creatures such as fallen angels or sons of God could have been what he feared.

I’m just a bible beginner…but a logical thinker…let me know if I missed anything.

]]> By: Dr. D http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/comment-page-1/#comment-19962 Dr. D Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:41:17 +0000 http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/#comment-19962 Keggs, We have so little info given that any conclusions we would draw are speculation at best so welcome to the conversation. However, there is no Biblical reference reflecting the possibility of parallel group of hominids like Neanderthals in that timeline. Keggs,
We have so little info given that any conclusions we would draw are speculation at best so welcome to the conversation. However, there is no Biblical reference reflecting the possibility of parallel group of hominids like Neanderthals in that timeline.

]]> By: Keggs http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/comment-page-1/#comment-19958 Keggs Mon, 25 Jul 2011 12:34:56 +0000 http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/#comment-19958 Interesting thoughts! I find it hard to believe he would fear his younger siblings. I have heard he was afraid of the Neanderthal's that where still present. Any thoughts? Interesting thoughts! I find it hard to believe he would fear his younger siblings. I have heard he was afraid of the Neanderthal’s that where still present. Any thoughts?

]]> By: Dr. D http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/comment-page-1/#comment-14172 Dr. D Mon, 21 Mar 2011 03:59:33 +0000 http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/#comment-14172 Martin, Some good comments to consider. Actually I am not suggesting that Abel had any male children I don't think he did, however he could well have had female children. Martin,
Some good comments to consider. Actually I am not suggesting that Abel had any male children I don’t think he did, however he could well have had female children.

]]> By: Martin http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/comment-page-1/#comment-14163 Martin Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:45:37 +0000 http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/#comment-14163 Chaps. If Abel had (male) children then he had a line of descent and would not need replacing. There is no record of descent from Abel. I'm never happy rationalizing even elements of myth, even though rationalization helps! The simplest interpretation of the narrative is that life was incredibly slow by our standards, no one was in a hurry to breed. Which itself is counter-intuitive, the sex drive being what it is. If we are less rigorous with Occam's razor then we can introduce entities in many ways: by interpolating people around Cain and Abel, including their own families (which introduces the problem above for Abel needing 'replacement') and by making time non-linear: verse 17 happened BEFORE verse 16, years before the murder of Abel. These things are possible but proliferate entities in themselves and further complexities. However some entity proliferation seems esential in the face of the unreality or tensions of the narrative. Regards - Martin Chaps. If Abel had (male) children then he had a line of descent and would not need replacing. There is no record of descent from Abel. I’m never happy rationalizing even elements of myth, even though rationalization helps! The simplest interpretation of the narrative is that life was incredibly slow by our standards, no one was in a hurry to breed. Which itself is counter-intuitive, the sex drive being what it is. If we are less rigorous with Occam’s razor then we can introduce entities in many ways: by interpolating people around Cain and Abel, including their own families (which introduces the problem above for Abel needing ‘replacement’) and by making time non-linear: verse 17 happened BEFORE verse 16, years before the murder of Abel. These things are possible but proliferate entities in themselves and further complexities. However some entity proliferation seems esential in the face of the unreality or tensions of the narrative.

Regards – Martin

]]> By: Dr. D http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/comment-page-1/#comment-8597 Dr. D Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:49:32 +0000 http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/#comment-8597 Andrew, Good point. I do believe that Seth was Eve's 3rd son and his line became the 'righteous line'. However I am purposing here that the timeline is not defined and could have been long enough here that Abel might have had children before he was killed. We just don't know. Plus Cain could have been thinking about the future when the population would be much larger. After all these folks were prolific and lived over 900 years. Andrew,
Good point. I do believe that Seth was Eve’s 3rd son and his line became the ‘righteous line’.
However I am purposing here that the timeline is not defined and could have been long enough here that Abel might have had children before he was killed. We just don’t know.

Plus Cain could have been thinking about the future when the population would be much larger. After all these folks were prolific and lived over 900 years.

]]> By: Andrew http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/comment-page-1/#comment-8584 Andrew Tue, 12 Oct 2010 02:09:39 +0000 http://answersforthefaith.com/bibleq/2006/05/06/11/#comment-8584 This response makes sense, but one thing remains. In Gen 4:25, it says "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, [said she], hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew." If Seth replaces Abel in Eve's mind, this suggests that Seth is son #3. Otherwise, wouldn't one of the other sons next in line after Abel be "another seed" that God has "appointed"? I guess there could be other sons already, but I take Eve here to mean "heir" when she mentions the "seed." Cain would be disqualified for his conduct, and Abel is dead. Now Seth inherits the rights of "firstborn." Otherwise, it sounds strange: Seth is "another seed" -- in addition to the 25 other sons she has already? And if I'm right about this, we're back to there being no one for Cain to fear. This response makes sense, but one thing remains. In Gen 4:25, it says

“And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, [said she], hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.”

If Seth replaces Abel in Eve’s mind, this suggests that Seth is son #3. Otherwise, wouldn’t one of the other sons next in line after Abel be “another seed” that God has “appointed”? I guess there could be other sons already, but I take Eve here to mean “heir” when she mentions the “seed.” Cain would be disqualified for his conduct, and Abel is dead. Now Seth inherits the rights of “firstborn.” Otherwise, it sounds strange: Seth is “another seed” — in addition to the 25 other sons she has already? And if I’m right about this, we’re back to there being no one for Cain to fear.

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